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Comparing Wars: Libya and Iraq

   Posted by: FMFP   in Uncategorized

By no means is Libya a simple issue, nor do these facts necessarily argue against the actions taken by the United States, but it is important to take this opportunity to put our last major military intervention in Iraq into perspective by considering just a few facts:

International Support
* Coalition partners Bush had for Iraq: 30
* Coalition partners Obama has for Libya: 17

Domestic Support (Pew Research Center)
* Decision to use military force in Iraq (March 2003): 72% support/22% oppose
* Decision to enforce no-fly zone in Libya (March 2011): 44% support/45% oppose
* Decision to bomb Libyan air defenses (March 2011): 16% support/77% oppose

Constitutional Considerations
* Candidate Obama (2007): “The President does not have power under Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military strike.”
* President Obama (2011): “Obama did not seek congressional authorization before joining allies, including Great Britain and  France, in taking military action against the regime of Libyan dictator Col. Moammar Gadhafi in order to establish a no-fly zone over that country. The action was approved by the United Nations Security Council but not by the U.S. Congress.” – CNS.com

Congressional Support
* Iraq war resolution passed House 297-133 and Senate 77-23.
* Libyan war resolution: does not exist

Objective
* US objective in Iraq War: Topple Saddam Hussein regime, replace with democratically-elected government, stop race to obtain and use WMDs and ultimately bring more stability to Middle East.
* US objective in Libya: Stop Qaddafi from murdering Libyan residents, ???

Public Demonstrations

* Iraq War: Major protests in San Francisco, New York, Portland
* Libya War: Crickets….

The Iraq war started in 2003 and the present one in Libya have numerous differences, but I thought the comparisons above were worth highlighting. GPP will have much more on the ongoing American/UK/French war efforts in Libya throughout the next few days.

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3 comments so far

BigBri
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The lack of protests seem to belie your support vs. oppose numbers. Don’t think yours are accurate.

Iraq war had support based on lies told to us by Bush administration. The protests began when we realized we’d been lied to…

When exactly will we realize our goals in Iraq???

March 26th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
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To answer your first point, There is a big difference between disapproving of something and going out in the street and shouting slogans against something.

To answer your second point, http://shadow.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/03/26/when_will_the_bush_lied_myth_be_abandoned

If you have a policy disagreement with the Iraq war, state it. Just saying the words ‘Bush lied’ doesn’t really do anything for me.

March 28th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
FMFP
 3 

BigBri thanks for joining the discussion but like Pat says, it’s not helpful to the discussion to rest your criticism on an overly used and nonsensical “Bush lied” allegation. Explain your beef in policy terms and then I can respond appropriately. Hope to see you join in with substantive comments.

April 3rd, 2011 at 8:28 am

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